Andy Mineo asks question on profanity, anger ensues

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This past weekend Andy Mineo took to Twitter to ask a question regarding using profanity in music as a Christian.

It was a simple question but it almost immediately backfired. Having been involved in the CHH community for over 5 years I’ve seen what “Christians” will do when they don’t agree with your point of view.

I definitely agree with Andy on the above statement. Some Christians think they are in an exclusive club where nobody is allowed in. I’ve seen the hateful comments and tearing down of others on this site along with other sites. I’ve written about the hate Christians express and it only seems to be getting worse.

Personally I don’t like to use profanity when expressing my self but I do think Andy was trying to spark genuine dialog. Why do Christians think it’s ok to belittle and bash people?ok

Regardless if you are a Christian or not, I do believe people deserve a certain level of respect when spoken to. Often people hide behind their screens when in reality they would never confront or say the things they say online to a real person. They think it’s ok to express a hateful opinion if they are behind closed doors and safe.

God sees your heart no matter where you are. It doesn’t matter if you told the person to their face or online that you think they are #@!%$%@ stupid. I want to encourage you to examine your heart and find meaningful ways to express your opinion. Yes, there is a way to have reasonable dialog without having to offend anyone.

If you get too caught up in social media with the he say she say, maybe you need to cut back on your time on social media. Take a 30-60 day break and use that time to get closer to God. There is a whole world with real people out there that you could be building relationships and experiences with.

Comments

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  1. Not worried about it. Love Andy love his music still faithful fan and always praying for him and his ministry. Love the hell outta ya Andy Mineo

  2. The problem with this issue is the way it is presented. Even the two options presented in the title of this post puts people in two extreme categories. Yes, I do think it should be brought up as a topic, but if I happen to disagree with Andy, I shouldn’t be pegged as “judgemental”. There are people on both sides of the argument being judgemental and there are people on both sides of the argument who have viable points, and there are people who aren’t on either side, and have a different perspective all together.

  3. Sucks. Dude is just trying to start dialogue and gets crucified for it. And we wonder why folks don’t like Christianity or Christians in general? Look at how we treat our own.

  4. I don’t think he was wrong to ask the question, but I thought some of his replies to others who commented were off the mark. He may have been playing devil’s advocate, I don’t know, but it just makes you wonder. It’s kind of like when your kid asks you a question and you have this feeling that they’re asking out of something more than curiosity.

  5. Two things. One I don’t see the value in bringing the question up publically where there is already so much division going on in the CHH community. That is a conversation that is better suited on a more personal less public level. Two, if his views of what a Christian is are different then others the scripture clearly tells us to not make the issue a stumbling block for others
    15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died
    17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
    So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.
    Romans 14:15,17,19
    In my opinion it’s very obvious there was no intentions of building people up or bringing peace to a situation, it was clearly aimed towards drawing attention to himself and the issue and drawing a line within the body of Christ, which I feel like has been consistently happening already( that’s another topic ) but to answer the question, Andy bringing up the issue publically in that context proved to only cause division and strife. It’s almost ironic how he would later complain about people coming at him when he was the one who picked up the phone and started all that mess .. And sidenote since he wanted to be so public about it, in my opinion Andys looking like a thirsty school girl trying to get Kanyes attention. #boom

  6. Christians are too quick to judge because they just go off of someone else’s beliefs rather then reading the word and gaining their own relationship with God

  7. Andy was wrong for that, skilled or not, fan or not, loving him or not, let’s build not destroy
    Let’s watch what we say, and how we present it, in 1Timothy 4:12 the bible speaks of conduct and speech
    Let no one despise or think less of you because of your youth, but be an example (pattern) for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, and in purity.

  8. I feel we should discuss this but to be a believer with this platform and not know that Swear words, cuss words, curse words are not good causes concern. Lately I see many artist who are Christians but not Christian artist saying they swear, and that they are human so leave them be. That sounds like an excuse to me. Do I swear? yes. Not often as before. Maybe like once in a while but out of frustration and I repent and rebuke it right away. I know that those words are not uplifting. We may slip up once or twice but to intentionally speak foul is no good. I am down to dialect and discuss things but do not try to make something wrong seem good. Just don’t. That is wrong and will misguide the young in faith. Let us work together in Gods vineyard not our own selfish way. Just my two cents.

  9. Forget about this dude he’s not GOD!!! What does the Holy Bible say about using profanity??? Why are we even discussing about things that The Word of God is clear on. Read your Bible Christian!!! Ephesians 4:29 | 1 Peter 3:10 | and my favorite James 3:9-12 | and if you’re still not clear on this topic here is more SCRIPTURE!!! Luke 6:45 | and the cherryU0001f352 on top – 2 Corinthians 5:17…..people stop being gruppies and idolizing people. Re-Focus on GOD and HIS Great Commission for us, Love HIM and Love people. Pray for cats like Andy that God may reveal where he’s in the wrong……

  10. Christians are quick to judge anyone,no matter what.
    Can’t say anything that would make Christians’ think differently about something that’s concern them or not.

  11. So if you disagree with Mineo you’re judgmental? Isn’t that judgmental?
    Believe it or not it is possible to disagree without hatred or judgment.
    On the topic of swearing, is it necessary? Is it uplifting?
    I honestly don’t care what words you use but don’t look down on me for refusing to use those words.

  12. Andy been at it for a while, so if the question is “are Christians who know about this dude judging to quickly?” then no

  13. If you say Christians are too quick to judge or are judgemental, it’s not Christians who are wrong. Jesus said Christians can judge. We are to judge those who are in the CHURCH. God judges those outside the church. Andy claims to be Christian, which makes him a part of the church so BIBICALLY fellow Christians judging his actions is correct according to God’s word. If you have a problem with that, you don’t have a problem with me or Chrisotians. Your problem is with God and His word. Take it up with Him.

  14. So, what is worse? Being jealous or hate someone in your head or complimenting someone with a cuss word, whether intentional or on purpose? It’s a great topic. The intent of the heart. Everyone is on a different level on this walk of faith.

  15. Ok Bud so you are saying no self proclaimed Christian simply gEts their information from what they hear rather then God’s word

  16. Reading the comments to this very post, I see what Andy is saying. If you honestly think Andy’s main point was that you should swear then you’re not being fair to him, only ignorant. And that is what he is going after. Jesus asked Q’s all the time, who are you to know his motive behind the Q? Honestly if I wasn’t a Christian who knew the difference between true and false Christianity, Id throw the whole thing out after reading 90% of the above comments.

  17. yep we are — sadly it is human nature, but as christian we always have to fight against the ‘current’ of the flesh and worldly thing just like swimming up stream.

  18. Yes, the bible says profanity is wrong. But the truth is that God is the ultimate judge of all. I know it’s already been oversaid, but Christians can be the most judgemental people there is. And some of the stuff they judge people about isn’t even in the bible.

  19. Mike Lee those are two wrong actions. One we should not use profane words and two we should not be hateful. Neither is good.

  20. Not using swear words is in the bible. So are many other subjects which many say are not because they don’t know the bible and its contents. JS

  21. No. You are wrong. We are all hypocrites. We all fall short. True Christians do not make excuses for their sin. They confess them and repent. JS

  22. We are the most hypocritical tho because we say we are so pure and holy yet fall short. Atheists and the other religions don’t care care

  23. Good response but what if someone is still struggling with profanity but their intent is still good? Should they still be shunned upon?

  24. If someone is still struggling that is a different story. I still struggle fam. I bust my toe and I scream out an obscene word. It happens but I repent of it and rebuke that foul language. I don’t sit here and try to justify it to look better. Just because I am used to a word not being bad does not mean it is OK. For example a man calls his wife a bit** and laughs and she laughs too because they use to it. Does that make him calling her that ok? No. It is still wrong. Now if he was mad and it slipped he would apologize and repent and turn away from that language. Not continue in it. We all make mistakes and that is life but the action you take after your fall shows your fruits. Are you being like Christ or the world. My goal is to be like Christ. That is my goal. Not there yet but striving to be there.

  25. Mike Lee I am always willing to dialogue with anyone who really wants to know answers from Gods word. I am just here to serve. I pray you have a blessed day. God bless you.

  26. People are people… Period. Problem is we look at Christians and put them on a pedestal. I sin just like the sinner because I am one. Only difference between me and a sinner is that I acknowledge my sins and know the only one whom can wash them clean. Being a Christian, is also a process. God works in the heart continually. So are Christians too quick to judge? Yeah, just like everyone else on the planet.

  27. newH2O It’s 1 thing to spark a ? 2provoke thought… It’s another when the guy that is looked at like a leader, & is laughing people….

  28. Not beating anyone up, Pyrexx came to know the Lord in prison. He shared the Gospel and said he cursed that’s who he was at the time . guess what people came to know Christ. The Lord understood the heart. He knows now as Christian who begin to read scripture that it was not something he should do anymore God convicted him and he changed. So we need to be slow to respond. Grace the Word Christian including myself I want it but I need to give it as well Grace and Mercy.

  29. Pray for these rappers. Lecrae, Andy, all of them. They’re working hard and I’m sure they want to glorify Jesus Christ with their music. But the harder they work and the more fame they get, the less time they may have to spend with the Lord…and in the Word…
    And they want to “evolve” in their music but the older stuff they began with seems to have more of God than anything else…There’s a pattern there…and they’re getting involved with “social issues” more and more and seem to be glorifying Jesus less and less…

  30. My only problem with Andy is that his whole purpose now is to be uncomfortable, but as soon as ppl start giving him answers he doesn’t want…he gets uncomfortable. Lol. He also spoke in a very condescending tone. Also, he responded with sarcasm and arrogance to most of the ppl that didn’t agree with him. I think Andy has a lot of maturing to do.

  31. 1 Corinthians 6:1-2 KJV
    Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? [2] Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

  32. It’s nothing wrong with starting a dialogue about a subject. Andy should have put his thoughts, first on the subject. If he started the dialog out of curiosity then he is just trying to learn others opinions which he is not judging at all.

  33. 1 Corinthians 6:1-2 KJV
    Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? [2] Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

  34. Amen Damien and Ulysses. We need to pray they get right with God….I hope it ain’t about the $$$$…
    My Bible teacher had a saying,
    “If it doesn’t make sense, there’s a buck in it”…..

  35. While I can understand the conversation and the want to discussion from Mr. Mineo and can even understand the whole “the world is who tells us these words are profane” thought just a little; I would say no to the profanity.
    A lot of people have already brought up the scripture on the subject. These verses paint a pretty clear picture in my mind so I dont feel the need to repeat them.
    The questions I ask myself are “Does this help or hurt?” “Does this bring people closer or push them further away? ” “Does this make people consider Christianity or does it give them another excuse to push it away?” “Is this something that could cause a brother or sister to stumble?” These are the things that we must consider with almost everything we do.
    Yes, God looks at the heart and our intentions. He sees our potential and our heart. But there is a road that leads to Hell that is paved with good intentions. The problem with my intentions sometimes is that my intentions are selfish. But my intentions should be God’s intentions. Which should draw people to a relationship with Him.
    We should be set apart. We should be “in the world but not of the world” We should be different in words, actions, life, lyric, music, etc.
    Just my thoughts.

  36. Also on the judgement topic. I would encourage people to read the whole of chapter 7 of the gospel of Matthew. Matthew 7:1 is the verse that says “judge not lest ye be judged” but the rest of the chapter goes on to give a better look at our Christian judgement. How we are called to self judge first- to “first pull the log out of our own eye”. And then to reach out in love with that experience to “pull the speck out of our brothers eye” We are instructed to “not cast our pearls before swine” which to me would take judgement on my part as to who or what are swine and what is my pearls. And then we are warned to “Beware of false prophets” and we are told that we “will know them by their fruits” which again takes judgement.
    Also one thing to consider is that it takes judgement on my part to say “Yes, Andy you are correct there is nothing wrong with profanity” as well as “no, there is something wrong with profanity” but people don’t have issue with the judgement… it’s when my judgement is contrary to their judgement. I believe their is a 116 artist lyric that goes something like “if I judge you as cute, you call it wisdom”.

  37. I’m not asking anything I’m saying there’s a difference between scripture and opinion and sometimes that line is blurry

  38. I agree with the point of this article.  I think if a believer knows it’s wrong to cuss and choose to, that’s a whole other issue.  However, if someone is coming up and it’s a struggle for them, then yeah, gotta be patient with other peoples’ processes.  However, I think if a believer is that immature, they don’t need to be making music for other impressionable believers to listen to and get the wrong idea that it’s okay to do that.  Would it be okay for a director to come to Christ, then start making Christian movies with sex scenes in them?  To him, in his immaturity, that may not be a big deal but it impresses on believers who consume that as truth. I’ve been saying this for a while but any believer who is making media should be held to the same standard as a preacher, they need to have a foundation in Christ before they start creating content for the masses.

  39. Andy you can be a Christian but immature in your understanding of the Bible. If you talk like the world it makes it hard to draw them to Christ. It’s one thing if you struggle with cussing and it slips out. But you are an artist and you use a cuss word, that is premeditated with a purpose. Do you think Christ walked around using profane language? Life and death are in the power of the tongue. Remember the world takes what is meant as evil and makes it good. Don’t let popularity and record sells be you gauge to rather you are doing what’s right in God’s eye!

    The Word is clear, whether we agree or not:

    Matthew 15:10-1221st Century King James Version (KJ21)
    10 And He called the multitude and said unto them, “Hear and understand:
    11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man, ((((but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.”))))))
    Luke 6:45 – A good man out of the
    good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an
    evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which
    is evil;((((((( for of the abundance of his heart his mouth speaketh.))))))))

  40. If I say “GREAT F#%*ING JOB!” Out of joyful heart bc my boy graduated or
    if I say “good job” w a jealous/hateful heart-which is pure b4 God?
    To answer your question Andy, neither one is pure b4 God. What comes our the mouth defiles and what is in the heart like jealousy can defile as well.  Your words should line up with your heart they are tied together. Striving to be more like Christ is working on both!

  41. That’s so stupid and immature. If the word is called a “profanity” there’s a reason for it. I’m not judging people because they curse but if you are representing Christianity, I’m not saying be super perfect, I’m just saying try to live that life. Don’t try to act all cool and hip now. This is his way of moving to manistream and get attention. This is not the first time Andy tried to get attention. Nobody wants to buy his albums in the real world and so he’s trying his best to shift the blame. I think he’s a joke.

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