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FLAME Sues Katy Perry: Should We Care? | Convo

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Major news outlets TMZ, STLToday.com, and CourtHouseNews.com are reporting FLAME has filed a lawsuit over Katy Perry’s single “Dark Horse” which features Juicy J.

CourtHouseNews.com reports, Four Christian hip-hop artists claim in court that Katy Perry ripped off their song for her mega-hit “Dark Horse,” which they say tarnished the original tune with images of “witchcraft, paganism” and “black magic.”

Does this tarnish the image of the Christian Hip Hop industry or is it just good business? I do understand that it’s important to protect your copyright, intellectual property and to get paid for the work you’ve done. However, how many songs these days sound similar to classics previous to them and no action is taken? Should CHH artists be sued every time they remix a mainstream song? Whether we seek money or payback, God does promise us that vengeance is His. (Romans 12:19)

Do we need to get on TMZ’s level that generally promotes gossip and toxic content? I’d like to believe Christians wouldn’t want to cause division and to get involved in others business but hey, where’s the fun in that?

I pray as a body we can rise above issues like this and Christians can leave things behind closed doors regardless the reasoning of the lawsuit. Spreading content and speculating only causes division and our sinful human nature starts to take over. What’s the difference between us and the world at this point?

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  1. Yes, for years mainstream has told us how corny christian hip hop was but now we have a legitimate case reflecting the contrary. When an international pop star is using music (blatant or not) from a christian rapper the entire christian music community should care and show support.

  2. Good point. I didn’t clarify that post. My opinion. It’s a matter of principle. Licensing and publishings aren’t cheap. I think that someone should be paid for their work and efforts. Not eye for and eye per se. If the song was sampled or jacked, they should be awarded damages. If not they should apologize.

  3. on is that they can sue her for stealing artwork the swiss law even calls it a persons spiritual posession cause it came out of their own mind. Adding to this its christian music and she put dirt on top making it secular if this stands before court i dont know…

  4. Let me elaborate, I mean this as far as in the eyes of the public audience. I think its cool that lecrae, flame, ect. are standing up for their creative rights and the work that they have put into it. I just think the public, those not part of the case, are going crazy about this more than it should be. Wasn’t the case settled anyway?

  5. This is a very delicate matter…I mean you got Flame and Lecrae working hard for that song that came out so long ago and then Katy perry who stole it. But on the other hand she used to be a believer herself, so maybe she backslid during her spiritual life and this lawsuit just might reinforce her decision to never believe ever again. My only hope is that they tried to settle this matter privately before they went public with like this. We are taught to turn the other cheek but c’mon what else is Flame to do? She practically broke copyright laws and we were meant to follow the laws of the land…idk lol like I said, it’s delicate

  6. I don’t think it’s necessary. I think it brings more attention to katy Perry’s song. No one really thought it about it until they point it out.

  7. Fair enough, but i don’t have a problem with the law suit itself. Just feel like it is a little over blown by media outlets and members of the public. But this is simply my opinion. If you don’t feel the same way that is fine.

  8. I don’t think it’s “eye for an eye” at all. As an independent music artist you work hard at your craft and getting your music out there is not at all easy. Someone stealing your music and making a mockery of it is no joke. Even though the music is also a ministry I believe that these artists should be paid for the work that they’ve put in. If Katy Perry came into your museum and stole a valuable piece of art that was also close to your heart would you just let her have it or would you want it back?

  9. Should we care that Lecrae just used the “I got 5 on it” riff by Luniz for his new song “nuthin”?

  10. If rappers sample songs without copyrights they get sued… I definitely think it’s fair for Flame and them to do this and remind artists about integrity. Also, i’d be super heated if this secular trash got recorded over my beat idea and then they deceived millions to this falsehood and blasphemy.

  11. As a rapper and producer my self knowing that song when it came out was really the start of Christian Hip Hop. Yeah people knew about it before the single but when that song came out it was like an anthem, it led to more artists coming up from that song and growing. So for mainstream artists and fans to say that Christian rap isn’t “cool” or “hard” but when they turn around and take music from them kind of tells you something. Honestly now if you look at the music if it wasn’t for the labels Christian rap would be the top industry. With copyrights and licences etc.. That’s a legal issue its not even about who’s who and what you think is right it’s a legal issue. So they should be suing her. Regardless of who’s Christian and who’s not or who’s nice and who’s not. You people still must realize music is still a business.

  12. I’m not 100% how I feel about this… Feel free to check out some of the comments on a YouTube video I made about them suing Katy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSk4qY6i3HY&list=UUgAUPR2nDJVSTWpGerOVedA
    I must say this comment sums up a lot of truth – “If Lecrae, Flame & Da Truth really are doing this themselves then I
    don’t think there is a scenario where they come out better than they
    were. If they loose this case they are ‘wack attention seeking christian
    artists’ and if they win or the case gets settled, theyll be the ‘money
    seeking christian artists’. If the info we have now is all there really
    is to it, I hope they (for the sake of their reputation outside the
    christian market) win but then they have to give every dollar they get
    out of it away. Even if we’re talking about millions because otherwise
    its really gonna send a wrong message.”

  13. Lawsuits Against Believers 6 When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! 4 So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, 6 but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? 7 To have lawsuits at all with one another is already a defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 But you yourselves wrong and defraud—even your own brothers!

  14. its stealing. report it. good job FLAME and Lecrae. No big deal. Someone stole my car, I’m not gonna act like it didn’t happen…

  15. That ain’t nobodies business… It don’t. Matter to any of ya…and that was a worldly court matter if they chose to carry it along and they did so it over.

  16. Yes, she stole, just because you have Faith doesn’t mean roll over and play dead. Jesus is coming back as a LION to take back HIS. Lecrae owns it.

  17. Aren’t we not supposed to take revenge. Doesn’t God take care of these things. Why sue? What are they gaining?

  18. Actually both songs used Club Nouveau- why you treat me so bad.  From what I understand, they got permission. Something Katy Perry didn’t do… Get permission.

  19. Fans went on about it when Katy Perry’s song first came out!  Check out the Rapzilla article, it has artists like KIDD tweeting back in January saying that it was stolen!  How much more attention can Katy Perry’s song get? From this point on, it doesn’t really matter, everyone I know and their momma have heard this song!

  20. Y’all don’t get the spiritual significance of this. The wealth of the wicked is laid up for the righteous.

  21. It’s says not to take believers to court and Kevin if I steal something from u, ur not finah try and get it back, legally… U gotta use common sense… And as far as taking believers to court Chris Warr is Katy Perry is a believer I’m batman…

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